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Youth culture killed my dog- twice! [Jul. 13th, 2005|12:33 am]
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In 1947, how many 19 year olds were running around in Flapper dresses, bobbing their hair and doing the Charleston? In 1950, do you think many teens owned and wore Zoot suits when they went to the park?

Their parents, who'd already lived through these fads in their OWN youth, would have laughed their asses off if their kids started dressing 20 years behind the times every day.

So please explain why there are STILL 20-year old mohawked punkers in combat boots and studded leather jackets (in the park, in July) almost -30- years after the first punks started going to Sex Pistols gigs? This look was a decade old when I was in high school, and kids are still enthusiastically wearing it? Is there no other way to visually express that you like loud and fast music and dislike authority? Isn't it weird to follow a Youth Culture Fashion Statement who's trailblazers are now pushing FIFTY?!

I'm not trying to be Old Grouchy Lady, I just don't get how The Uniform has lasted this long with almost no variation. It's not even like it made a comeback- it never went away. I was a teen in the late 80's and (unfortunately) remember legwarmers, belting untucked button-down shirts, and asymetrical haircuts. We'd certainly laugh at a 15 year old today dressed liked they just walked off the set of "Valley Girl" or "Flashdance"- why aren't we laughing at the Punk Rock Uniform when worn by kids who don't even remember life before Compact Discs?

[User Picture]From: shoutingboy
2005-07-13 03:43 am (UTC)

Could be worse...

...down here, we still have hippies. Though some of them are just the original hippies, still hanging around.

As P.J. once said, "Funny how behind the times the avant-garde has gotten."
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[User Picture]From: petdance
2005-07-13 09:59 am (UTC)
What are you talking about? I laugh at them all the time.

For me, it's even weirder 'cause I see them worn by kids who were born in the late 80s. How much excitement for G.B.H. can they have?
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[User Picture]From: repoman
2005-07-13 11:20 am (UTC)
Is it possible evolved into something more than a fad? I was at a rockabilly show recently and saw teenagers trying their best to look like James Dean. We're in the 50 year range from the start of that one, yet there are these kids with rolled up jeans, boots, and white t-shirts.

Frnakly, I'd rather see kids in bondage pants and leather coats than leg warmers or members-only jackets...
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[User Picture]From: gryph
2005-07-13 11:21 am (UTC)
I thought the same thing when I moved to Seattle. I think it's a PNW thing, as they were over this look down in L.A. when I left 10 years ago.
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From: seanthesean
2005-07-14 02:44 am (UTC)
It goes in cycles, when you were leaving LA, the band Total Chaos was the only postcard Punk band on the scene, but today, there are heaps of them. During the mid-nineties, LA had pop-punk & crust metal going on. Meanwhile, in the Northwest, fashion Punk bands were just beginning to spread as Grunge collapsed in on itself.
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[User Picture]From: warrenjabali
2005-07-13 01:46 pm (UTC)
I had the same thoughts when I went to "Nation" here in D.C. and saw a million people dressed in goth garb. it felt like just a variation on the people who get paid to wear tri-cornered hats and knickers in colonial Williamsburg...i guess it's a comment both on the wearer's lack of imagination and the mainstream's monolithic stasis that either side could possibly consider those uniforms "shocking".

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From: seanthesean
2005-07-14 02:42 am (UTC)
hello, randomly stumbled on your blog, thought i'd weigh in on the subject.
So, the deal is, subcultures never die. & there are indeed girls who are fifteen who are doing the 80s FULL ON, & not being laughed at, or at least not too much. Also, there are always new things going on, but they have slowed down in their arrival on the scene. Also, there isn't the same sort of, "Everyone's doing it" mentality these days. Or, what's being done is so pervasive that it squeezes out subcultures. When i was a Punk Rocker in the late 80s & 90s, it was difficult to convince kids of the importance of conforming to something "old & English". Anyhow, there isn't the same kind of promotional system going on to get kids into these subcultures, so the new ones don't get the sort of promotion that the old ones did. Also, most of the American subcultural interest was coming from England, who has ceased being a big musical influence on America, so now, instead of whatever latest English musical trend is being promoted, we get whatever new sort of Black American cultural element is being promoted, like Krunk.
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[User Picture]From: carapace_green
2005-07-14 11:07 pm (UTC)
I find it oddly reassuring that punk, goth, and hippie seem to have become permanent subcultures, though I doubt that's the effect the practitioners of same mean to have on me.

Also, leg warmers are back. Ringmistress DiTolvo was sporting some just the other day. I am now gritting my teeth and bracing myself for the return of v-jeans, the tuxedo-tailed bigshirt, and other horrors from my middle school years. Blouson crap seems to be having a bit of a renaissance aw well.

My friend Matt says that nostalgia is about becoming an adult but still longing after the first people who made an impression on you, desire-wise, when you were a little kid. Me, I think that stuff comes back into fashion the moment that said stuff becomes completely foreign (and therefore fascinating) to the newest crop of young trendies.

(This is Victoria, from the old book group btw. Hi!)
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