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Dan Savage, editor and cocksucker, defends Ivan and me: [Feb. 1st, 2006|10:26 pm]
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First, some background for non-Seattle people:

Charles Mudede is the Stranger columnist you love to hate to read. Sorta like Gina Arnold, except with a obsession with German Philosophers instead of mid-80s punk rock. He's pretentious and intellectual where Arnold is gossipy and cliquish, but the general idea is the same for the reader. Neither will ever be fired because they generate too much reader mail.

So when The Stranger did their annual charity auction, pimping sections of the paper to be written by the auction winner, Ivan bought the comic and produced this, which ran last week:

http://www.thestranger.com/images/extra/comics/012606_comic.jpg

I'm credited as a co-author, though my contributions were actually minor. I remembered a few choice Mudede quotes and some ideas from freshman year Philosophy that added to the in-jokes in the comic. Ivan drew it and authored it; my role was more muse/Mudede quote researcher.

Most of the things Mudede is quoted as saying are from his published work in The Stranger. The phrase "Scholar Nigga" is from a Hip-hop column penned by Dan Savage (yes, really), where Savage states Mudede has refered to himself this way, and explores the problem of calling someone a "cocksucking, musical theater fan" vs calling someone a "nigga" if one does not belong to said groups.

We thought it'd be funny to use both in the comic: "Scholar Nigga" for Mudede, and "Cocksucker" for Savage.

So apparently, the comic has caused people who don't understand that we're making fun of Mudede to assume we're racists. I don't know if there will be more letters in tomorrow's Stranger, but one made their blog, along with Savage's eloquent response:

The comic satirizes a staff member, Charles Mudede, in a way that Mudede and the rest of the editorial staff felt was humorous and legitimate. Mudede has a habit of name-checking prominent dead German philosophers in his book, movie, and music reviews. Mudede is, indeed, a scholar. We felt the use of “nigga” was appropriate and legitimate, considering the wide use of “nigga” as a term of affection, not derision, in hip-hop and rap music, art forms that Mr. Mudede writes about extensively in our pages. If its the word “nigga” you object to, EBM, i would direct your attention—and your ire—to popular music, popular culture, and the insanely popular Chappelle Show.

The best part is Dan's sign-off at the end:

All the best,
Dan Savage
Editor & Cocksucker
The Stranger

The other best part? They want Ivan to do another comic for them. Stay tuned...
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Comments:
[User Picture]From: dirtylibrarian
2006-02-02 06:42 am (UTC)
That is rather pleasing.

Would you like to come over tomorrow? I was thinking of making Garlic Broccoli Soup and watching Palindromes.
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[User Picture]From: lara7
2006-02-02 07:22 pm (UTC)

maybe:

what do you mean by "tomorrow"? Thursday, or Friday? I'll call you at 6pm thursday and figure it out.

Garlic soup sounds good, but after "Happiness", I'd rather not watch another Solondz movie. Ever.
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[User Picture]From: dirtylibrarian
2006-02-03 01:19 am (UTC)

Re: maybe:

I meant Thursday (tonight).

Happiness is a particularly repellant movie.

I also have If It's Tuesday, This Must Be Belgium or a documentary, Word Wars
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[User Picture]From: holyoutlaw
2006-02-02 08:47 am (UTC)
I loved the comic and thought it was hilarious. It's cool they've asked Ivan to do another one. Another episode of Schola Nigga or does he get to pick a topic this time?
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[User Picture]From: lara7
2006-02-02 07:18 pm (UTC)

it's a secret!

Not another Schola Nigga, but he's meeting with Stranger folks today to find out more about what they want.
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[User Picture]From: mad_eponine
2006-02-02 11:07 am (UTC)

a tipped hat... and a penguin too!

excellent excellent work... both the research and the graphical portions!

you, you, and chas have been duly filed and archived:

http://wwn.nebcorp.com/library/greypapers/Dossiers/data/mudede_chas/

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[User Picture]From: mcfnord
2006-02-02 11:30 am (UTC)
i liked the little ribbing you gave Mudede, but the line that stayed with me was his: "There is nothing special about knowing a person who is dead." You've got a champ in that guy.
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[User Picture]From: lara7
2006-02-02 07:15 pm (UTC)

it gets better:

here's the whole quote (see link for more context), in reference to that gal that got killed in NYC after a mugging when she said "What are you going to do, shoot me?":

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=20594

Charles Mudede: "If my sister said something stupid that got her shot, then my sister said something stupid that got her shot. I have little sympathy for the dead, and even less for those who survive them. There is nothing special about being dead or knowing a dead person."
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[User Picture]From: lemur68
2006-02-03 02:14 am (UTC)

Re: it gets better:

Says the guy who name-drops philosophers who are ostensibly dead?
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[User Picture]From: warrenjabali
2006-02-02 03:39 pm (UTC)
that comic is awesome. did ivan and you do the whole thing - i.e. text and drawing and coloring etc? was it done on a computer? anyway it looks and reads great, nice job.
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[User Picture]From: lara7
2006-02-02 07:17 pm (UTC)

Ivan did most of it:

He drew images on paper, scanned and shrunk them, then inked and colored them on a computer. He's been reading a lot of Chris Ware lately and borrowed/stole the layout style from him.
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[User Picture]From: herbaliser
2006-02-02 06:57 pm (UTC)
Wow, this is all very awesome.
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[User Picture]From: bosstweed
2006-02-02 09:01 pm (UTC)

That Fucking Rocks!!!1

I almost always read The Stranger online, so usually don't get around to reading the cartoons. I'm glad you pointed it out -- you both did nice work. As to the letter and Dan's response -- both are priceless! Too cool.
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[User Picture]From: the_autoclave
2006-02-03 06:53 am (UTC)

I am Freakishly Impressed

Did we know Ivan made the comics? Did we? Had I somhow forgotten? This is great, and I love that the editor defended you with such wry aplomb. Naturally, I was most impressed with the standard of muse/Muede research.
Excellent job, Seven. Absolutely top-hole!
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